[*] Shaw not selling VoIP?

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> Certainly I understand from a marketing perspective why they are doing
> it this way. There are many things you can do to differentiate your
> service.
>
> I just have a problem with them explicitly denying something that is
> explicitly true.
>
> If, in response to the question they said, "it uses a similar technology
> but the difference is calls are not routed over the public internet."
> I'd be ok with that because basically there service is VoIP on a private
> WAN.
>
> This raises the question, where does their PSTN connectivity happen? One
> possibility is its all done centrally out of Calgary which means they
> would be back-hauling the calls via BigPipe, again using IP so really it
> might be over the internet...
>
> --
> John Lange
> OpenIT ltd. www.Open-IT.ca (204) 885 0872
> VoIP, Web services, Linux Consulting, Server Co-Location
>
> On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 14:55 -0500, DAN KEIZER wrote:
>> Not to defend nor attack shaw, but I suspect they are differentiating
>> themselves from the open internet connectivity vs their own managed
>> cablesystems "internal" infrastructure.  Let's face it, some guys I
>> talked to that have used VoIP services in the past (such as vonage or
>> primus), have changed to shaw and like it better as it does not have the
>> qos issues that the other "true internet" voip services have.  Local vs
>> remote servers and where the digital connects to the pstn.
>> If I had voip installed at a workplace for internal use, I wouldn't have
>> internal Voip issues either if I ran a properly setup network and
>> managed it properly.
>>
>> Differentiating their service to the entrenched voip services is my bet
>> on what they're doing ...
>>
>> Dan.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Lange <john.lange at open-it.ca>
>> Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:08 pm
>> Subject: [*] Shaw not selling VoIP?
>>
>> > Its a bit interesting that if you call Shaw and ask "Is your service
>> > VoIP?" they will adamantly deny it, saying instead that its "Digital
>> > Phone Service, not VoIP".
>> >
>> > Yet, here is the data sheet from Motorola on the modem:
>> >
>> > http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//broadband.motorola.com/catalog/product_documents/SBV5120%2520Data%2520Sheet.pdf&ei=9sMMQ62OEJOS-gHpzqzTCQ
>> >
>> > (if that URL is too long for you, just google for: Surfboard SBV
>> > 5120 )
>> >
>> > Note that official name for the device is the "SURFboard SBV5120 VoIP
>> > Cable Modem" and the word VoIP is used several times throughout
>> > the data
>> > sheet. It even goes on to mention its using g711.
>> >
>> > --
>> > John Lange
>> > OpenIT ltd. www.Open-IT.ca (204) 885 0872
>> > VoIP, Web services, Linux Consulting, Server Co-Location
>> >
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