[*] voip911

Dean Jones Dean at ComputerJones.Com
Mon Oct 17 16:01:45 CDT 2005


This is my first post here, so I hope it goes through...

My argument against any 'deadline' of having to get e911 working would be to
use cell phones as an example.  My current cell has GPS, but my wife's does
not.  If she is in the country and can't speak, then makes an e911 call and
it is only picked up by one tower, there's NO WAY for the e911 operator (or
cell provider) to triangulate the location of that caller with only 1
tower's signal strength.  Basically, there's no way for them to find her.
There's no difference in an ATA placing the same call from wherever it is
currently located.  The closest they could come is to look up the IP and
contact the ISP to get a location.  So tell me, why does VoIP have to fix
this problem when VoIP has only been around for a few years as compared to
cell phones who have been around for about 2 decades?

Now, argument aside, my solution to the problem involves the ISPs who give
out the IPs.  If the IP and date/time of the 911 call are recorded at the
e911 location, then the ISP can be looked up and contacted.  The ISP can
provide the location at the time of the call for that IP.

Going one step further, all ISPs can set up an auto-registering system,
where all information of the IP/Locations is auto-updated on a central
database system when an IP changes, and that database could be accessed (via
secure means) by all e911 personnel 24/7/365.  Then the system becomes
automated (and faster) and won't incur any costs to the ISPs who otherwise
would have to have someone available 24/7/365 to accept the e911 call to
look up the information.  Basically, by the time this is done it is just as
fast and automated as the current PSTN e911 service.

Any argument as to a single building with the same IP for multiple ATAs can
be dismissed by comparing it to the current PSTN e911 situation.  Many
buildings do their own phone systems and any particular extension on their
PSTN is not recorded with the e911 services, so the best the e911 operator
can get is the building's address, not the exact room.

Sounds like a good solution to me.
Dean

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:29 AM
To: Asterisk Open Source PBX SIG
Subject: Re: [*] voip911

It is an interesting idea, and will probably be effective to some degree.

However, I would really question someone who would drag along an ATA on a
road-trip, and truely expect to get results from calling 911 from
"wherever they are"

Les.
> I ran across an interesting blog entry regarding at&t and it's proposed
> 911 voip proposed solution.
>
>
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/topnews/wpn-60-20051011ATTHas911VoIPFix.ht
ml
> link was from this site:
> http://www.directionsmag.com/
>
> And how many people plan on remembering to identify where  you're at, or
> for that matter how many would voluntarily do so ...
>
> Dan.
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