[RndTbl] Shaw now blocking SMTP port 25
kmcgregor at shaw.ca
Wed May 23 11:41:33 CDT 2007
Well... yeah. Note that you can still do outbound SMTP if the destination SMTP server supports SSL/STARTTLS, such as smtp.gmail.com does:
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - requires TLS: smtp.gmail.com (use authentication)
Use Authentication: Yes
Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL)
Port: 465 or 587
So, it's not ideal as this won't be a solution which can be used by everyone affected, but at least it's something.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Cody <sean at tinfoilhat.ca>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:33 am
Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Shaw now blocking SMTP port 25
> What he said.
> Look at the situation from their perspective, this is the
> cheapest way to solve a problem and this will only affect a small
> minority of their customers.
> While this annoys me I understand it, though it would be nice to
> request that the block be removed without having to pay a
> class' premium.
> The general rule of thumb is to always use the DNS and SMTP relay
> your immediate upstream provider anyways.
> If it is a privacy issue then there are easy ways (for the
> technically savvy) around it (ie. -L25:127.0.0.1:25).
> Was there any notification of the change?
> I don't see my bill anymore and have never used their mail system
> I can't assume they just didn't go all commando.
> If there was no notification then I'm very sad and wonder why they
> have such terrible administration policies.
> On 23-May-07, at 7:14 AM, Shawn Wallbridge wrote:
> > While I agree it is inconvenient, I would have to disagree that
> > is nonsense or 'net bigotry'. After watching my mail server
> logs, I
> > honestly have to say that I wish _All_ ISP's did this to some
> > extent. The fact that probably 50% (if not more) of the spam
> > hitting my mail servers comes from consumer DSL/Cable lines is
> > reason enough to block it IMHO.
> > Being both a SysAdmin and operating a hosting company, it is a
> > for me to explain to clients how to send mail with Shaw or
> > (or SBC or whichever ISP they are with) SMTP server and receive
> > mail with my POP/IMAP servers, I still think it's for the better.
> > And I am with Shaw, but I have been using an SSH tunnel to check
> > mail for a few years now, so it's no big deal to me.
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