[RndTbl] Shaw now blocking SMTP port 25

Kevin McGregor kmcgregor at shaw.ca
Wed May 23 11:41:33 CDT 2007

Well... yeah. Note that you can still do outbound SMTP if the destination SMTP server supports SSL/STARTTLS, such as smtp.gmail.com does:
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - requires TLS:  	smtp.gmail.com (use authentication)
Use Authentication: Yes
Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL)
Port: 465 or 587

So, it's not ideal as this won't be a solution which can be used by everyone affected, but at least it's something.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Cody <sean at tinfoilhat.ca>
Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:33 am
Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Shaw now blocking SMTP port 25

> What he said.
> Look at the situation from their perspective, this is the 
> literally  
> cheapest way to solve a problem and this will only affect a small  
> minority of their customers.
> While this annoys me I understand it, though it would be nice to  
> request that the block be removed without having to pay a 
> 'business- 
> class' premium.
> The general rule of thumb is to always use the DNS and SMTP relay 
> of  
> your immediate upstream provider anyways.
> If it is a privacy issue then there are easy ways (for the  
> technically savvy) around it (ie. -L25:
> Was there any notification of the change?
> I don't see my bill anymore and have never used their mail system 
> so  
> I can't assume they just didn't go all commando.
> If there was no notification then I'm very sad and wonder why they 
> have such terrible administration policies.
> On 23-May-07, at 7:14 AM, Shawn Wallbridge wrote:
> >
> > While I agree it is inconvenient, I would have to disagree that 
> it  
> > is nonsense or 'net bigotry'. After watching my mail server 
> logs, I  
> > honestly have to say that I wish _All_ ISP's did this to some  
> > extent. The fact that probably 50% (if not more) of the spam  
> > hitting my mail servers comes from consumer DSL/Cable lines is  
> > reason enough to block it IMHO.
> >
> > Being both a SysAdmin and operating a hosting company, it is a 
> pain  
> > for me to explain to  clients how to send mail with Shaw or 
> MTS's  
> > (or SBC or whichever ISP they are with) SMTP server and receive  
> > mail with my POP/IMAP servers, I still think it's for the better.
> >
> > And I am with Shaw, but I have been using an SSH tunnel to check 
> my  
> > mail for a few years now, so it's no big deal to me.
> >
> -- 
> Sean
> -- 
> Sean
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