[RndTbl] OS X tips

[Mike Pfaiffer]

On 2009-12-17, at 5:16 PM, Brian Doob wrote:

> I use Apple GarageBand extensively, and it is *very* good. I think I'd call it "category leading", but it's a little tricky to define its category. It's a highlight of iLife for anyone who does audio editing, post-production sound mixing or computer music creation.
> 

	10.4 seemed to have a full version. I haven't checked out 10.6. I thought it and iPhoto were separate from iLife.

	At one point when I was younger, I was in the "not too bad" category of amateur musicians. I tried GarageBand myself for a few weeks. From what I saw I formed a generally favourable opinion of the program. Of course after all this time my skills as a musician are no longer there and GarageBand wouldn't be able to fix a disaster no matter how good a program it is. ;-)

> 			-Brian

				Later
				Mike

> 
> On 2009-December-16, at 11:59 PM, Adam Thompson wrote:
> 
>>>>> So there is also one being sold for $200?
>>>> http://store.apple.com/ca/product/MC209Z/A
>>>> It does also include iLife and iWork.
>>> 
>>> 	I wonder if it's the full versions... 10.4 had demo versions
>>> of some of the products.
>> 
>> Yes, the $200 package includes the full versions of (AFAIK) iLife and iWork
>> '09.
>> 
>>> As demos I found them to be pretty
>>> useless.
>> 
>> As full versions, I found them to be pretty useless :-)
>> 
>> Well, that's not true.  iPhoto is actually quite a well-done app, as long as
>> you understand its scope: it's not *supposed* to replace PhotoShop or
>> LightRoom.
>> 
>>> What's more I find demands for money for things I probably
>>> won't use to be quite offensive.
>> 
>> Well, that's why you bought the $35 upgrade instead of the $200 package,
>> right?
>> 
>>> There are a number of pretty good
>>> free products out there. Nowhere near the number of items as there
>>> is for Linux mind you but there are some good ones out there. I
>>> mean, why use M$ Word when there is NeoOffice... I've installed the
>>> Perian Codec package, Gimp (I think it wants a new version), Simply
>>> Burns, VLC, NeoOffice (naturally) and a couple of others. Anyhow...
>>> Since I don't use iLife and iWork (same as most people I think)
>>> there is no need to pay for it.
>> 
>> I don't know many people who use iWork.  I tried for most of a year, and
>> disliked (most of) the products quite intensely.  Pages is NOT a competitor
>> to Microsoft Word, it's a competitor to Microsoft Publisher.  I think Apple
>> is flat-out lying when they call it a word processor.  I don't know WHAT
>> Numbers is supposed to be... some bizarre cross between Publisher and Excel,
>> I suppose.  Keynote, on the other hand, is actually a pretty decent product.
>> It's not quite as powerful as PowerPoint, but it's infinitely easier to use
>> (and prettier) for relatively simple presentations.  I don't care if my
>> spreadsheet is pretty or not, but I'll grant that it actually is a relevant
>> concern for slide presentations.
>> 
>> Much like iWork, iLife also rests on the strength of one application:
>> iPhoto.  It's generally a category-leading application at any given point in
>> time, although everyone else usually catches up pretty quickly.  iMovie was
>> good, then they crippled it, not sure why.  (Maybe it was eating into
>> FinalCut sales?)  GarageBand, um... dunno.  It sure didn't do anything for
>> me.  And iWeb - the less said, the better.  I created one site in iWeb...
>> again, it seems to be something that competes head-to-head with Microsoft
>> Publisher, but this time there's no File->Print option :-).
>> 
>> -Adam
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