[RndTbl] Roundtable Digest, Vol 68, Issue 3

John Lange john at johnlange.ca
Wed Aug 4 21:01:45 CDT 2010


As already mentioned on this thread, GNS is really worth looking into.

I recently set it up and ran it under Linux and I was quite happy with
it. It's a bit tricky to get going but I submit that if you can't get
GNS working, you're _really_ going to struggle with Cisco.

As for the IOS files; you can get a huge collection of IOS files via
bittorrent. Not that I'm advocating copyright violations but as long as
this is strictly for education use with GNS I don't think Cisco would
mind too much.

-- 
John Lange
http://www.johnlange.ca


On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 09:28 -0500, Kat wrote:
> I'm interested in two of the cisco 2500 routers, if you're willing to
> let two go to one person.  I'll be writing my CCNA in September and
> won't have equipment to play with after mid-August.
> 
> Unless someone will let me play with their Cisco equipment at work :)
> 
> Now to find a couple old Cisco switches...
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Katherine Scrupa
> Network Technology CCNA student, RRC
> 
> 
> 
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>           1. Cleaning out less-common hardware (Colin Stanners)
>           2. Re: Cleaning out less-common hardware (Mike Pfaiffer)
>           3. Re: Cleaning out less-common hardware (Sean Cody)
>           4. Re: Cleaning out less-common hardware (Robert Dyck)
>           5. Re: Cleaning out less-common hardware (Colin Stanners)
>           6. Re: Cleaning out less-common hardware (Sean Cody)
>           7. Re: Cleaning out less-common hardware (Colin Stanners)
>           8. Re: Cleaning out less-common hardware (Sean Cody)
>           9. Re: Cleaning out less-common hardware (Kevin McGregor)
>         
>         
>         ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 1
>         Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:25:01 -0500
>         From: Colin Stanners <colin at ninja.ca>
>         Subject: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID: <4C585EFD.9070900 at ninja.ca>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>         
>          I'm cleaning out old hardware to make space, here's the more
>         interesting
>         pieces, if anyone wants them please reply or call my cell
>         797-1617:
>         
>         MicroVAX 3800  (makes a great bedside table)
>         Digital Server 3000 (Alpha CPU-based, PSU modded to feed CPU
>         3.3V direct)
>         Sparq portable 1GB-disk drive with 3 disks
>         Backer32 (parallel port video 'modem', 4GB on VHS tape)
>         IBM Token Ring Concentrator
>         3x new Fujitsu fiber cables, 61meter, 2 fibers, ST-ST
>         connectors
>         Laboratory tube PSU, variable 200-325V  0.1A
>         Ribbon cable in foil wrap,  approx. 50 wires, 200ft?
>         Konika-Minolta Magicolor 330, huge colour laser printer, needs
>         toner/work
>         Eurologic 4-drive SCSI/SAS array with redundact PSUs, serial
>         mgmt
>         Eurologic Fiberchannel 7x 73GB (1 HD bad) RAID array with
>         redundant
>         PSUs, fans
>         A few 2.4ghz wifi dishes, 19-24dbi
>         
>         I'm bringing a bunch of 300-800mhz PCs, 10mbit hubs, etc. to
>         recycling
>         places.
>         
>         
>         
>         ------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 2
>         Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:38:08 -0500
>         From: Mike Pfaiffer <high.res.mike at gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID: <4C586210.5060502 at gmail.com>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>         
>         On 10-08-03 01:25 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>         >    I'm cleaning out old hardware to make space, here's the
>         more interesting
>         > pieces, if anyone wants them please reply or call my cell
>         797-1617:
>         >
>         > MicroVAX 3800  (makes a great bedside table)
>         > Digital Server 3000 (Alpha CPU-based, PSU modded to feed CPU
>         3.3V direct)
>         > Sparq portable 1GB-disk drive with 3 disks
>         > Backer32 (parallel port video 'modem', 4GB on VHS tape)
>         > IBM Token Ring Concentrator
>         > 3x new Fujitsu fiber cables, 61meter, 2 fibers, ST-ST
>         connectors
>         > Laboratory tube PSU, variable 200-325V  0.1A
>         > Ribbon cable in foil wrap,  approx. 50 wires, 200ft?
>         > Konika-Minolta Magicolor 330, huge colour laser printer,
>         needs toner/work
>         > Eurologic 4-drive SCSI/SAS array with redundact PSUs, serial
>         mgmt
>         > Eurologic Fiberchannel 7x 73GB (1 HD bad) RAID array with
>         redundant
>         > PSUs, fans
>         > A few 2.4ghz wifi dishes, 19-24dbi
>         >
>         > I'm bringing a bunch of 300-800mhz PCs, 10mbit hubs, etc. to
>         recycling
>         > places.
>         >
>         > _______________________________________________
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>         
>                I may be interested in the wifi dishes. Would they be
>         suitable for
>         connecting to my d-link (N) router? I realise they are for
>         point to
>         point transmission/reception. Other than that, what are their
>         capabilities?
>         
>                I'll forward your original message to another geek
>         friend who is a bit
>         of a collector.
>         
>                                        Later
>                                        Mike
>         
>         
>         
>         ------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 3
>         Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 13:40:26 -0500
>         From: Sean Cody <sean at tinfoilhat.ca>
>         Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID:
>         <FDACB188-71B3-4D71-9BBA-BDED1D6BD0F3 at tinfoilhat.ca>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>         
>         I'm interested in the wifi dishes as well.
>         
>         On 2010-08-03, at 1:25 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>         
>         >  I'm cleaning out old hardware to make space, here's the
>         more interesting
>         > pieces, if anyone wants them please reply or call my cell
>         797-1617:
>         >
>         > MicroVAX 3800  (makes a great bedside table)
>         > Digital Server 3000 (Alpha CPU-based, PSU modded to feed CPU
>         3.3V direct)
>         > Sparq portable 1GB-disk drive with 3 disks
>         > Backer32 (parallel port video 'modem', 4GB on VHS tape)
>         > IBM Token Ring Concentrator
>         > 3x new Fujitsu fiber cables, 61meter, 2 fibers, ST-ST
>         connectors
>         > Laboratory tube PSU, variable 200-325V  0.1A
>         > Ribbon cable in foil wrap,  approx. 50 wires, 200ft?
>         > Konika-Minolta Magicolor 330, huge colour laser printer,
>         needs toner/work
>         > Eurologic 4-drive SCSI/SAS array with redundact PSUs, serial
>         mgmt
>         > Eurologic Fiberchannel 7x 73GB (1 HD bad) RAID array with
>         redundant
>         > PSUs, fans
>         > A few 2.4ghz wifi dishes, 19-24dbi
>         >
>         > I'm bringing a bunch of 300-800mhz PCs, 10mbit hubs, etc. to
>         recycling
>         > places.
>         >
>         > _______________________________________________
>         > Roundtable mailing list
>         > Roundtable at muug.mb.ca
>         > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
>         
>         --
>         Sean
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         ------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 4
>         Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 13:55:07 -0500
>         From: "Robert Dyck" <rbdyck2 at shaw.ca>
>         Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: "'Continuation of Round Table discussion'"
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID: <000401cb333d$63fc6ca0$6400a8c0 at wp.shawcable.net>
>         Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>         
>         I would like an old Alpha capable of running OpenVMS. Just to
>         keep my skills
>         up. I bid on a contract a few years ago to replace an old VAX
>         with a new
>         model system; didn't get it simply because I wasn't American.
>         But I doubt
>         they would find anyone with 1989 certification for VMS. The
>         MicroVAX is
>         pre-Alpha (I remember administering a 3000 series), but can
>         your Digital
>         Server run OpenVMS? I have a CD with VMS Alpha 7.2-2 OS
>         binaries.
>         
>         As for old PCs, I volunteer with Mike Pfaiffer at a computer
>         lending
>         library. They could use any P4 PCs.
>         
>         By the way, what is a "Laboratory tube PSU, variable 200-325V
>          0.1A"?
>         
>         Rob Dyck
>         
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: roundtable-bounces at muug.mb.ca
>         [mailto:roundtable-bounces at muug.mb.ca]
>         On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
>         Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:25 PM
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         Subject: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         
>         
>          I'm cleaning out old hardware to make space, here's the more
>         interesting
>         pieces, if anyone wants them please reply or call my cell
>         797-1617:
>         
>         MicroVAX 3800  (makes a great bedside table)
>         Digital Server 3000 (Alpha CPU-based, PSU modded to feed CPU
>         3.3V direct)
>         Sparq portable 1GB-disk drive with 3 disks
>         Backer32 (parallel port video 'modem', 4GB on VHS tape)
>         IBM Token Ring Concentrator
>         3x new Fujitsu fiber cables, 61meter, 2 fibers, ST-ST
>         connectors
>         Laboratory tube PSU, variable 200-325V  0.1A
>         Ribbon cable in foil wrap,  approx. 50 wires, 200ft?
>         Konika-Minolta Magicolor 330, huge colour laser printer, needs
>         toner/work
>         Eurologic 4-drive SCSI/SAS array with redundact PSUs, serial
>         mgmt
>         Eurologic Fiberchannel 7x 73GB (1 HD bad) RAID array with
>         redundant PSUs,
>         fans
>         A few 2.4ghz wifi dishes, 19-24dbi
>         
>         I'm bringing a bunch of 300-800mhz PCs, 10mbit hubs, etc. to
>         recycling
>         places.
>         
>         _______________________________________________
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>         Roundtable at muug.mb.ca
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>         
>         
>         
>         ------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 5
>         Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:54:16 -0500
>         From: Colin Stanners <colin at ninja.ca>
>         Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID: <4C5873E8.3010509 at ninja.ca>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>         
>          Rob: will speak with you later today
>         
>         Mike/Sean: will check the number of dishes and condition and
>         let you know
>         
>         Mark: I don't have many ATX power supplies without the
>         leaky-capacitor
>         issues
>             (or that are a quality brand). I'm about to recycle pretty
>         complete
>         < P4 systems;
>             since you can buy used P4s today for ~100$ I don't think
>         it's worth
>         the time
>             to deal with anything less. If you are available right
>         away I can
>         arrange for
>             you to come here and pick what you want.
>         
>         Also have the following:
>         -metal box with ~5u rack inside
>         -2U 8-outlet power switch with ethernet remote control
>         -4x  cisco 2500 routers
>         -HP Advancestack 2000 switch, redundant PSU, 12x 10mbit, 2x
>         100mbit, 4x
>         100VG
>         -Heathkit 10-4015 Oscilloscope, 10mhz?
>         
>         
>         On 8/3/2010 1:25 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>         >    I'm cleaning out old hardware to make space, here's the
>         more interesting
>         > pieces, if anyone wants them please reply or call my cell
>         797-1617:
>         >
>         > MicroVAX 3800  (makes a great bedside table)
>         > Digital Server 3000 (Alpha CPU-based, PSU modded to feed CPU
>         3.3V direct)
>         > Sparq portable 1GB-disk drive with 3 disks
>         > Backer32 (parallel port video 'modem', 4GB on VHS tape)
>         > IBM Token Ring Concentrator
>         > 3x new Fujitsu fiber cables, 61meter, 2 fibers, ST-ST
>         connectors
>         > Laboratory tube PSU, variable 200-325V  0.1A
>         > Ribbon cable in foil wrap,  approx. 50 wires, 200ft?
>         > Konika-Minolta Magicolor 330, huge colour laser printer,
>         needs toner/work
>         > Eurologic 4-drive SCSI/SAS array with redundact PSUs, serial
>         mgmt
>         > Eurologic Fiberchannel 7x 73GB (1 HD bad) RAID array with
>         redundant
>         > PSUs, fans
>         > A few 2.4ghz wifi dishes, 19-24dbi
>         >
>         > I'm bringing a bunch of 300-800mhz PCs, 10mbit hubs, etc. to
>         recycling
>         > places.
>         >
>         > _______________________________________________
>         > Roundtable mailing list
>         > Roundtable at muug.mb.ca
>         > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
>         >
>         >
>         
>         
>         
>         ------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 6
>         Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:56:42 -0500
>         From: Sean Cody <sean at tinfoilhat.ca>
>         Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID:
>         <49212B5F-A12C-4559-9ABB-D66DD4A83E1E at tinfoilhat.ca>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>         
>         I'm VERY interested in this.
>         
>         On 2010-08-03, at 2:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>         
>         > -2U 8-outlet power switch with ethernet remote control
>         
>         --
>         Sean
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         ------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 7
>         Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:04:30 -0500
>         From: Colin Stanners <colin at ninja.ca>
>         Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID: <4C58764E.1060301 at ninja.ca>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>         
>          Note it's an older model, don't think it has HTTP, likely
>         only telnet
>         or SNMP.
>         I got it from someone on this list. Are you close to St.B
>         right now?
>         
>         On 8/3/2010 2:56 PM, Sean Cody wrote:
>         > I'm VERY interested in this.
>         >
>         > On 2010-08-03, at 2:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>         >
>         >> -2U 8-outlet power switch with ethernet remote control
>         
>         
>         
>         ------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 8
>         Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 15:27:57 -0500
>         From: Sean Cody <sean at tinfoilhat.ca>
>         Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID:
>         <A3A65246-00C1-446D-88AC-706D9D30C598 at tinfoilhat.ca>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>         
>         I'm downtown in the exchange.
>         
>         On 2010-08-03, at 2:56 PM, Sean Cody wrote:
>         
>         > I'm VERY interested in this.
>         >
>         > On 2010-08-03, at 2:54 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>         >
>         >> -2U 8-outlet power switch with ethernet remote control
>         >
>         > --
>         > Sean
>         >
>         >
>         
>         --
>         Sean
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         ------------------------------
>         
>         Message: 9
>         Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 16:02:39 -0500
>         From: Kevin McGregor <kevin.a.mcgregor at gmail.com>
>         Subject: Re: [RndTbl] Cleaning out less-common hardware
>         To: Continuation of Round Table discussion
>         <roundtable at muug.mb.ca>
>         Message-ID:
>         
>          <AANLkTinYoPK0TjW-809rRBhJtojMB07vJOp5KSegcMc9 at mail.gmail.com>
>         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>         
>         I'm interested in taking a look at these:
>         -metal box with ~5u rack inside
>         ...
>         -Heathkit 10-4015 Oscilloscope, 10mhz?
>         
>         Kevin
>         
>         On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Colin Stanners
>         <colin at ninja.ca> wrote:
>         
>         >  Rob: will speak with you later today
>         >
>         > Mike/Sean: will check the number of dishes and condition and
>         let you know
>         >
>         > Mark: I don't have many ATX power supplies without the
>         leaky-capacitor
>         > issues
>         >     (or that are a quality brand). I'm about to recycle
>         pretty complete
>         > < P4 systems;
>         >     since you can buy used P4s today for ~100$ I don't think
>         it's worth
>         > the time
>         >     to deal with anything less. If you are available right
>         away I can
>         > arrange for
>         >     you to come here and pick what you want.
>         >
>         > Also have the following:
>         > -metal box with ~5u rack inside
>         > -2U 8-outlet power switch with ethernet remote control
>         > -4x  cisco 2500 routers
>         > -HP Advancestack 2000 switch, redundant PSU, 12x 10mbit, 2x
>         100mbit, 4x
>         > 100VG
>         > -Heathkit 10-4015 Oscilloscope, 10mhz?
>         >
>         >
>         > On 8/3/2010 1:25 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>         > >    I'm cleaning out old hardware to make space, here's the
>         more
>         > interesting
>         > > pieces, if anyone wants them please reply or call my cell
>         797-1617:
>         > >
>         > > MicroVAX 3800  (makes a great bedside table)
>         > > Digital Server 3000 (Alpha CPU-based, PSU modded to feed
>         CPU 3.3V direct)
>         > > Sparq portable 1GB-disk drive with 3 disks
>         > > Backer32 (parallel port video 'modem', 4GB on VHS tape)
>         > > IBM Token Ring Concentrator
>         > > 3x new Fujitsu fiber cables, 61meter, 2 fibers, ST-ST
>         connectors
>         > > Laboratory tube PSU, variable 200-325V  0.1A
>         > > Ribbon cable in foil wrap,  approx. 50 wires, 200ft?
>         > > Konika-Minolta Magicolor 330, huge colour laser printer,
>         needs toner/work
>         > > Eurologic 4-drive SCSI/SAS array with redundact PSUs,
>         serial mgmt
>         > > Eurologic Fiberchannel 7x 73GB (1 HD bad) RAID array with
>         redundant
>         > > PSUs, fans
>         > > A few 2.4ghz wifi dishes, 19-24dbi
>         > >
>         > > I'm bringing a bunch of 300-800mhz PCs, 10mbit hubs, etc.
>         to recycling
>         > > places.
>         > >
>         > > _______________________________________________
>         > > Roundtable mailing list
>         > > Roundtable at muug.mb.ca
>         > > http://www.muug.mb.ca/mailman/listinfo/roundtable
>         > >
>         > >
>         >
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