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[Kevin McGregor]

This ASUS board seems to support ECC:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX23640(ME).aspx

<http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX23640(ME).aspx>I think all AMD
CPUs, even low-end ones, support it via the on-chip memory controller
(unlike Intel); I don't know what it takes, if anything, to support ECC on
the motherboard if the CPU/memory-controller does. Anyway, they don't seem
to be hard to find in the AMD arena.

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Trevor Cordes <trevor at tecnopolis.ca>wrote:

> I'm really late to this discussion.  Some quick 2c's:
>
> On 2010-02-18 Daryl F wrote:
> > I think non-ECC memory should be illegal. Somebody's gonna lose an
> > eye and it won't be funny any more.
>
> Hear hear!  Considering ECC RAM sticks cost just a small fraction more
> to make than non-ECC, and same with mobos(/cpus) that support ECC, why
> everything isn't ECC is beyond me.  If everything was ECC, economies of
> scale would kick in and the additional cost would be negligible.
> Consider back in the 440BX days every board supported ECC, it boggles
> the mind as to why today you must buy server/workstation (and I mean
> $300 a mobo workstation) class equipment to get ECC.  The 975 was the
> last "mainstream" (albeit "extreme enthusiast mainstream") Intel chipset
> with ECC.  AMD fares no better.  WTF??
>
> 2 of my 3 systems are ECC, and the 3rd is mostly just used for games.
>
> On 2010-02-19 Kevin McGregor wrote:
> > While we're on the topic, what sort of desktop-PC motherboards are
> > available that support ECC memory? I've never really paid attention,
> > so for all I know, ECC support is common.
>
> Ha!  As per above, no Intel/AMD desktop boards have ECC.  It's sad.
>
> On 2010-02-19 Kevin McGregor wrote:
> > Kingston ValueRAM 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM ECC Kit (2 x 2GB)...or
> > $40/GB at Memory Express (special order, though). Is that reasonable?
> > Do people generally trust Kingston for RAM?
>
> It's not the RAM that's the issue, it's finding a mobo to run it.  And
> I trust Kingston implicitly.  I have sold nothing but Kingston RAM
> since 2001.  We're talking thousands of sticks here.  I've had only
> about 5 RMA's in that time, and those probably due to static
> discharge.
>
> I would never sell no-name sticks again.  Beware the peddlers of "name
> brand" RAM where they are claiming the name of the DRAM manufacturer is
> the name brand of the stick.  Those are crap no-name sticks.  "Name
> brand" means Kingston, or OCZ, or Corsair, or similar actual branded
> stick (not back-of-truck leftovers from China).
>
> On 2010-02-19 Sean Walberg wrote:
> > An interesting article about Kingston flash memory and quality, or
> > lack thereof.
>
> Don't attribute flash quality to DRAM quality.  Most flash, including
> Kingston's carries only a short (1 year) warranty and is a completely
> different beast than DRAM.  That said, I've sold (and used) a number of
> Kingston flash without issues.  YMMV.
>
> On 2010-02-19 Sean Cody wrote:
> > Picked up a pile of drives from CBIT last year and 25% of them were
> > from Thailand and their warranty's were not honoured outside of
> > Asia/Pacific. Now we do warranty lookups on every drive we order.
>
> Ah, the Primex curse strikes again.  I have yet to receive any
> counterfeit parts through my distro channels.  Since I service all I
> sell, I would know if drives were gray-market/non-RMAable.  If you want
> guaranteed product at in general better prices than Primex^H^H^H^H^H^H
> CBIT, let me know.
>
> Ah, that reminds me of the bad ol' days when the guys at Primex were in
> the back room putting NEC stickers on no-name TW crap CRT's...
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