[RndTbl] Really old MTS Internet drop?

[Sean Walberg]

Here's a pic of the first DSL modem they rolled out to customers.

http://24.77.241.77/~sean/escape/adsl.jpg

I'm pretty sure it was RJ-45. In either case, if the cable plugs directly
into the card it's probably cable, if there's a T it's Ethernet.

Sean


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Gilbert E. Detillieux <
gedetil at cs.umanitoba.ca> wrote:

> On 05/02/2014 10:59 AM, Hartmut W Sager wrote:
>
>> I do consider it quite possible that this is simply a 10Base-2 NIC, and
>> that MTS supplied such NIC's at one time (to match some ancient DSL
>> modem), even though I don't distinctly remember this from my MTS past.
>>
>
> While I'd have no trouble believing MTS supplied 10-Base-2/T combo cards
> in the early days, I'd have trouble believing their early DSL modems
> actually used coax only.  But that could be the case.  (I'd say you'd have
> to go back quite a bit more than a decade, though.)
>
>
>  A hub isn't needed - 10Base-2 has all the stations (computers, etc.)
>> along a linear cable with T-connectors at each of them, even the two end
>> units, and a terminating resistor on the otherwise open-ended
>> T-connector at each of the two ends.
>>
>> Man, I hated wiring the connectors onto those 10Base-2 cables!  Anyone
>> out there old enough to have handled the even older 10Base-5 stuff?  You
>> gotta love RJ-45!
>>
>
> Ah, memories!...  In my first few years in my current jobs (almost 25
> years ago now), I did work with some (inherited) 10Base-5 nodes, with the
> old external transceivers and stinger taps.  I don't remember having to
> actually install one myself, however.
>
> We did run 10Base-2 thin coax for a number of years, and I did install a
> number of external transceivers on that, as well as BNC T connectors for
> interfaces with internal transceivers.  This would include running a
> temporary bypass cable (which we affectionately called the "hyper-space
> bypass") between two points, so that we could splice into a section of
> previously "live" cable to install new connectors for new drops.  We got
> comfortable enough with doing this that we could add new drops on a wire
> without anyone on that segment even noticing an outage (except for maybe in
> the room where we were working, which was being bypassed).
>
> Fun stuff...  I don't miss it at all, though.  :)
>
> Gilbert
>
>  On 5 February 2014 09:50, Colin Stanners <cstanners at gmail.com
>> <mailto:cstanners at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Likely: PC TV-capture card, or they're really confusing an ethernet
>>     cable.
>>     Very unlikely: ancient 10base-2 NIC to a hub somewhere with their
>>     DSL modem.
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Kevin McGregor
>>     <kevin.a.mcgregor at gmail.com <mailto:kevin.a.mcgregor at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>         Friends of my parents have had MTS Internet service for a decade
>>         or more (probably more).
>>
>>         They told me that they have a coax cable in the room with their
>>         computer (an IBM Pentium 4 3.0 GHz, to give you an idea of the
>>         age of this setup; they had MTS Internet service before that in
>>         an older computer) AND that this coax cable plugs directly into
>>         their PC.Has anyone seen this sort of setup? I didn't look at it
>>         myself; this is just what I got from them over the phone just now.
>>
>>         Are they mistaken, or did MTS in the past provide a PC card with
>>         a coax connector for Internet access? It's possible that they
>>         didn't recognize an Ethernet cable, but I did explicitly ask if
>>         it was connected to the computer with a screw-on type connector
>>         which they confirmed it was.
>>
>>         Kevin
>>
>
>
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