[RndTbl] Fwd: O'Reilly online shop no longer selling individual books and videos

Tim Lavoie tim at fractaldragon.net
Thu Jun 29 10:02:51 CDT 2017

Oh, good to know. Maybe there's hope, albeit maybe not for the PDFs.

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> On Jun 29, 2017, at 04:25, Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net> wrote:
> Both Amazon and Kobo (Rakuten) sell DRM-free e-media. It largely depends on the publisher. Both online stores specify whether or not the item you're buying has DRM or not.
> -Adam
>> On June 29, 2017 1:00:57 AM CDT, Trevor Cordes <trevor at tecnopolis.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2017-06-28 Tim Lavoie wrote:
>>>  One question now though, can you still buy DRM-free eBooks? What you
>>>  bought directly from them was unsoiled, but I think everything
>>>  through Amazon or Kobo was DRM-infested.
>> I'll never buy digital from Amazon so I'm not sure, but I think that Az
>> is DRM-only and can only be read with Kindle or an Az app or a specific
>> Az web page (though I could be wrong).  I'm sure some MUUGer has bought
>> Az digital books and can enlighten us further.
>> (BTW, Kobo is tied to Indigo/Chapter's competing device/format,
>> completely incompatible with Az's Kindle.)
>> Further to my other post, here's some more info on the ORM change:
>> Official explanation: (disappointed this isn't Tim writing this)
>> https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/were-reinventing-too
>> Pages and pages of angry user comments:
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14659462
>> Oh ya, and it seems that the biggest loss here is that never again can
>> one get a PDF format ORM title.  It's toast, kaput.  I tried all the
>> formats I could use to read my digitally-bought ORM titles and finally
>> settled on using PDF exclusively as it's the only format I could
>> stomach.  The others just stunk when it came to layout/formatting and
>> images/figures.  And their page numbers never made any sense.  With the
>> PDF I knew I was looking at exactly what the printed book looked like.
>> Only on my phone would I touch any other format (epub usually), because
>> of limited screen space.
>> Final note, I guess MUUG *really* won't be getting any book or ebook
>> donations from ORM ever again (not that we have for 2+ years now).  And
>> no more "user group discount".  And I'm pretty sure this also does away
>> with any future O'Reilly (and possibly sub-brands like No Starch!?)
>> Humble Bundle like the two MUUG has bought already.
>> Hey, it could be worse, they could have announced they were
>> discontinuing print books completely!!!  (Knock on wood...)
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