[RndTbl] Co-location costs

Gerald Brandt gbr at majentis.com
Sat Feb 16 22:38:22 CST 2019


When I went colo, I used Joe's Datacenter in Kansas City. They were $50 
USD a month for colo. I would have stayed with them, but eventually the 
conversion to CDN $ was just too much for me.

Gerald


On 2019-02-16 9:54 p.m., Daulton wrote:
> I need a blend of CPU, memory, and a nice amount of disk space for 
> what I am up too. With vultr, digital ocean, etc, you can get storage 
> but it comes in at $10 per 100 gb. Bump up the memory and amount of 
> vcpu and plus the storage and it gets expensive fast. Same thing 
> applies to the dedicated servers I mention in a minute also.
>
> Secondly while I am sure I can find cloud providers with clean IPs for 
> mail server usage there is a little problem. It seems from my research 
> and tests common cloud providers such as Vultr the IP you can get is 
> clean but there appears to be a silent increase in SCL score for 
> emails sent to Microsoft email (Outlook, 365, hotmail). This is only a 
> hypothesis so far as I have only used Vultr in my tests, I am still 
> looking at this so I can report on that separately later.
>
> Then with dedicated servers the concern is the following:
>
> 1) Speed and quality of support.
> 2) Privacy for what happens to dead drives AND after you are done with 
> the server, the concern being data recoverability. What then if they 
> do not do an actual wipe of the drives before a new customer gets the 
> dedicated server? If you have out of band management of course there 
> are ways around one of the two, but control over the hardware resolves 
> both.
>
> For what I have seen regarding dedicated servers from better providers 
> these concerns go away but with the pricing it appears higher long 
> term versus some of the colos I have been looking at plus my own 
> hardware. All options considered it is looking best to have colocated 
> servers, so that is why I am looking for a reasonable colo.
>
> Thanks,
> Daulton
>
> On 2/15/19 3:46 PM, John Lange wrote:
>> Just curious why you are looking to Colo a server vs. a vm in AWS or 
>> Azure? Cloud is why it is so hard to find Colo these days.
>>
>> Or why not just put it on a decent business internet service and put 
>> it under your desk?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 2:45 PM Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net 
>> <mailto:athompso at athompso.net> wrote:
>>
>>     Fiber Fortress is winding down and not accepting new customers,
>>     according to the owner.
>>     Quite a few ISPs are willing to let you place a small 1U rack
>>     server, if you already have a business relationship with them. (Have
>>     fun with physical access, though.)
>>     There's also Global Server Center (a division of The Exchange Group)
>>     which is Winnipeg's version of 141 Front St., and does offer 1U
>>     collocation.
>>     You may have talked to the wrong part of BellMTS, you want MTS
>>     Datacenters, don't have contact info right now, sorry. They have
>>     their own AS and domain.
>>     In general, though, there are a lot fewer options today than 10yrs
>>     ago. Mostly because everyone goes virtual, that being "good enough"
>>     for 99.999% of applications.
>>     -Adam
>>
>>     On February 14, 2019 5:20:40 PM CST, Daulton <daulton at tetmail.ca
>>     <mailto:daulton at tetmail.ca>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi guys,
>>
>>         I wanted to contribute some information, I have researched 
>> others for
>>         colocation but here are the top contenders so far. I am 
>> waiting for
>>         quotes for more, so if I find more good options I will send 
>> them.
>>
>>         Notably for local companies, Fiber Fortress and Bell MTS did 
>> not even
>>         bother to respond. Manitoba Hydro Telecom appears to only 
>> sell 1/3
>>         cabinets as their lowest size available.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         Company: Amanah
>>         Location(s): Toronto at 151 Front Street and 1 Yonge Street
>>
>>         Single 1U 1.88″(H) x 24″(W) x 42″(D) 1 Amp 110V 100Mbps / 
>> 1Gbps 8 IPs
>>         (/29) -5Usable $99 Monthly & $99 Setup on a 12 Month term.
>>
>>         They also have a free vlan for you as well, and have fiber 
>> between the
>>         data centers and a cross connections.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         Company: Nuday
>>         Location(s): 231 Amber St. Markham, ON
>>
>>         Features: 1U Space, 2AMP / 120v UPS / Generator Power, 1000 
>> Mbps Up/Down
>>         Port, 5 Static Public IP ( /29 ), 3000 GB Data Transfer / 
>> Month, $59 / Month
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         Company: Les Net
>>         Location(s):  Winnipeg
>>
>>         Costs: 1U space $30 / month, /29 IP addresses $20 / month, 6 
>> power
>>         outlets $30 / month, 100M internet connection $175 / month, 
>> Power usage
>>         $135/KW
>>
>>         Power usage wise it would cost $62 / month for something like 
>> a Dell R710.
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         Thanks,
>>         Daulton
>>
>>
>>         On 2/6/19 6:39 PM, Daulton wrote:
>>
>>             Hi guys,
>>
>>             Does anyone have any estimates they could give me for the
>>             prices for 1U
>>             or 2U colocation at any of the cities providers? Whether it
>>             be MTS,
>>             Les.net, Fiber Fortress, etc. I know I can contact them each
>>             for quotes
>>             but I am first wondering about your guys experience.
>>
>>             To give an example of power usage it would be something such
>>             as a Dell
>>             R710.
>>
>>             Thanks,
>>             Daulton
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