[RndTbl] Co-location costs
Daulton
daulton at tetmail.ca
Sat Feb 16 23:14:03 CST 2019
Thank you very much! I would appreciate if you checked both. I can send
my contact details and power requirements, etc. if you need?
On 2/16/19 10:54 PM, Alberto Abrao wrote:
> I have a hard time wrapping my head about not being able to service my
> own hardware. I like to play with it from start to finish, it's part of
> the fun! Also, the idea of relying on other people to bring it back to
> life in case something happens drives me nuts.
>
> I don't know what Westman (Brandon, MB) offers for colo, if at all, but
> I am willing to check if you're interested.
>
> The place I work for also host servers, but it's in Saskatchewan. I can
> also check with them if that suits you.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alberto Abrao
>
> On 2019-02-16 10:38 p.m., Gerald Brandt wrote:
>> When I went colo, I used Joe's Datacenter in Kansas City. They were
>> $50 USD a month for colo. I would have stayed with them, but
>> eventually the conversion to CDN $ was just too much for me.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>> On 2019-02-16 9:54 p.m., Daulton wrote:
>>> I need a blend of CPU, memory, and a nice amount of disk space for
>>> what I am up too. With vultr, digital ocean, etc, you can get storage
>>> but it comes in at $10 per 100 gb. Bump up the memory and amount of
>>> vcpu and plus the storage and it gets expensive fast. Same thing
>>> applies to the dedicated servers I mention in a minute also.
>>>
>>> Secondly while I am sure I can find cloud providers with clean IPs
>>> for mail server usage there is a little problem. It seems from my
>>> research and tests common cloud providers such as Vultr the IP you
>>> can get is clean but there appears to be a silent increase in SCL
>>> score for emails sent to Microsoft email (Outlook, 365, hotmail).
>>> This is only a hypothesis so far as I have only used Vultr in my
>>> tests, I am still looking at this so I can report on that separately
>>> later.
>>>
>>> Then with dedicated servers the concern is the following:
>>>
>>> 1) Speed and quality of support.
>>> 2) Privacy for what happens to dead drives AND after you are done
>>> with the server, the concern being data recoverability. What then if
>>> they do not do an actual wipe of the drives before a new customer
>>> gets the dedicated server? If you have out of band management of
>>> course there are ways around one of the two, but control over the
>>> hardware resolves both.
>>>
>>> For what I have seen regarding dedicated servers from better
>>> providers these concerns go away but with the pricing it appears
>>> higher long term versus some of the colos I have been looking at plus
>>> my own hardware. All options considered it is looking best to have
>>> colocated servers, so that is why I am looking for a reasonable colo.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Daulton
>>>
>>> On 2/15/19 3:46 PM, John Lange wrote:
>>>> Just curious why you are looking to Colo a server vs. a vm in AWS or
>>>> Azure? Cloud is why it is so hard to find Colo these days.
>>>>
>>>> Or why not just put it on a decent business internet service and put
>>>> it under your desk?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 2:45 PM Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net
>>>> <mailto:athompso at athompso.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fiber Fortress is winding down and not accepting new customers,
>>>> according to the owner.
>>>> Quite a few ISPs are willing to let you place a small 1U rack
>>>> server, if you already have a business relationship with them.
>>>> (Have
>>>> fun with physical access, though.)
>>>> There's also Global Server Center (a division of The Exchange
>>>> Group)
>>>> which is Winnipeg's version of 141 Front St., and does offer 1U
>>>> collocation.
>>>> You may have talked to the wrong part of BellMTS, you want MTS
>>>> Datacenters, don't have contact info right now, sorry. They have
>>>> their own AS and domain.
>>>> In general, though, there are a lot fewer options today than 10yrs
>>>> ago. Mostly because everyone goes virtual, that being "good enough"
>>>> for 99.999% of applications.
>>>> -Adam
>>>>
>>>> On February 14, 2019 5:20:40 PM CST, Daulton <daulton at tetmail.ca
>>>> <mailto:daulton at tetmail.ca>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to contribute some information, I have researched
>>>> others for
>>>> colocation but here are the top contenders so far. I am
>>>> waiting for
>>>> quotes for more, so if I find more good options I will send
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> Notably for local companies, Fiber Fortress and Bell MTS did
>>>> not even
>>>> bother to respond. Manitoba Hydro Telecom appears to only
>>>> sell 1/3
>>>> cabinets as their lowest size available.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Company: Amanah
>>>> Location(s): Toronto at 151 Front Street and 1 Yonge Street
>>>>
>>>> Single 1U 1.88″(H) x 24″(W) x 42″(D) 1 Amp 110V 100Mbps /
>>>> 1Gbps 8 IPs
>>>> (/29) -5Usable $99 Monthly & $99 Setup on a 12 Month term.
>>>>
>>>> They also have a free vlan for you as well, and have fiber
>>>> between the
>>>> data centers and a cross connections.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Company: Nuday
>>>> Location(s): 231 Amber St. Markham, ON
>>>>
>>>> Features: 1U Space, 2AMP / 120v UPS / Generator Power, 1000
>>>> Mbps Up/Down
>>>> Port, 5 Static Public IP ( /29 ), 3000 GB Data Transfer /
>>>> Month, $59 / Month
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Company: Les Net
>>>> Location(s): Winnipeg
>>>>
>>>> Costs: 1U space $30 / month, /29 IP addresses $20 / month, 6
>>>> power
>>>> outlets $30 / month, 100M internet connection $175 / month,
>>>> Power usage
>>>> $135/KW
>>>>
>>>> Power usage wise it would cost $62 / month for something
>>>> like a Dell R710.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Daulton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/6/19 6:39 PM, Daulton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any estimates they could give me for the
>>>> prices for 1U
>>>> or 2U colocation at any of the cities providers? Whether it
>>>> be MTS,
>>>> Les.net, Fiber Fortress, etc. I know I can contact them
>>>> each
>>>> for quotes
>>>> but I am first wondering about your guys experience.
>>>>
>>>> To give an example of power usage it would be something
>>>> such
>>>> as a Dell
>>>> R710.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Daulton
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