[RndTbl] The "Save .org" petition

Bill Reid billreid at shaw.ca
Wed Nov 27 11:19:48 CST 2019


Interview with savedotorg and ICANN President on CBC The Current this morning.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-nov-27-2019-1.5375027

On 2019-11-27 6:33 a.m., Adam Thompson wrote:
> To the best of my knowledge, the "recent" actions and activities at ICANN are 
> not politically-linked at all.  It's been going on for quite a few years - see 
> the .amazon debacle as an example.
> Nor is there anything illegal, per se, about the PIR acquisition, at least 
> that's publicly known right now.
> There is a fair bit of speculation about why, exactly, ICANN is behaving the 
> way it is - even kleptomania and incompetence can only explain so much.  
> Aliens preparing to cripple our technological society hardly sounds like a 
> more far-fetched explanation at this point!
> -Adam
>
> On Nov. 26, 2019 21:39, Hartmut W Sager <hwsager at marityme.net> wrote:
>
>     Yes, I was about to make a similar comment - the best ccTLD's, like ".ca"
>     and ".uk", should be relatively safe, since even with ICANN's overall
>     authority over *all* TLD's, surely they cannot dictate to CIRA or Nominet
>     that these country-based authorities must go the privatization/capitalism
>     route.
>
>     I like the idea of doing some 10-year renewals right now, because that
>     will at least deprive the new profiteers of an initial 10 years of
>     ill-gotten gains, but it does result in a long-term gamble on establishing
>     a well-regarded and well-recognized ".org" site.
>
>     I presume this new privatization move is loosely related to the same
>     political forces in the U.S. that ended net-neutrality in 2019.
>
>     Hartmut W Sager - Tel +1-204-339-8331
>
>
>     On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 12:40, Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net
>     <mailto:athompso at athompso.net>> wrote:
>
>         By definition, since the blatant failure of governance is occurring at
>         ICANN and the *entire* domain name system falls within ICANN's remit, no.
>
>         However, .ca - managed by CIRA, which has a fairly strict mandate (so
>         far, anyway), is a fairly good bet IMHO.
>
>         -Adam
>
>
>         On 2019-11-26 12:07, Alberto Abrao wrote:
>
>             Is there any TLD that's safe - for now, at least - from such an
>             interference?
>
>
>
>             ---- On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:43:00 -0600 *athompso at athompso.net
>             <mailto:athompso at athompso.net> * wrote ----
>
>                 On 2019-11-26 10:29, Glen Ditchfield wrote:
>                 > As you may have heard, ICANN removed the price caps on .org
>                 domains,
>                 > then
>                 > quietly decided to sell the .org registry to a private
>                 equity firm
>                 > linked to a
>                 > former ICANN CEO and several American billionaires (https://
>                 > www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/26/org_selloff_internet/
>                 <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/26/org_selloff_internet/>).
>                 >
>                 > So, a bunch of respectable organizations have started a
>                 petition to
>                 > stop that,
>                 > at https://savedotorg.org/ . Signing might help.
>
>
>                 Given the absolute failure of governance at ICANN, which seems
>                 to be
>                 spreading to NRO, IANA, etc., I think "Save dotOrg" has about
>                 as much
>                 chance of success as "Save Concordia" did locally, no matter the
>                 justness of the cause.
>
>                 What *would* be a good idea, though, despite the "rewarding bad
>                 behaviour" aspect of it, would be renew any .org domains you
>                 have, NOW,
>                 for the maximum term (10 years). Several industry observers are
>                 expecting prices to rise >10x, so you'll probably be saving a
>                 good chunk
>                 of money by doing it now.
>
>                 -Adam
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