[RndTbl] Gmail spam filtering super-aggressive lately

Bill Reid billreid at shaw.ca
Wed Mar 25 19:00:31 CDT 2020

Hi Hartmut,

When I was admining the Muug mailamn list I had the list set to the way it is 
now. It is the Mailman default. The goal is to save personnal emails to the 
sender from flooding the list. We did change it to make the default 
reply-to-the-list since we had similar complaints as yours. I guess at some 
point Mailman was changed back to the default. For small lists it does make it 
more conversational.

-- Bill

On 2020-03-25 5:47 p.m., Trevor Cordes wrote:
> On 2020-03-25 Hartmut W Sager wrote:
>> Say, Trevor, one unrelated peculiarity.  On this reply to your MUUG
>> RoundTable posting, just like on my initial reply last night, my "to"
>> (and "cc") field only had your personal e-mail address, not the MUUG
>> RoundTable address.  This time I caught it before "send" and manually
>> added the MUUG RoundTable address.  Are you doing something unusual
>> in your e-mail, like a jinxed "reply-to"?
> The MUUG mailing list program, Mailman, is mostly responsible for those
> headers and whether reply-to goes to sender or list.  It's a
> configurable option for us admins.  However, just like you saw, I find
> that sometimes Mailman does weird things and sometimes just hitting
> reply will go to list and sometimes just to sender.  I haven't seen
> much rhyme or reason for that yet.
> Most MUAs (like what I use, clawsmail) has a separate reply-all and
> reply-sender buttons and I try to use those exclusively for muug list
> replies so I know precisely who it's going to without having to
> double-check the headers.
> Maybe others more familiar with this header/mailman behavior can offer
> some guesses as to why mailman sometimes gets it right, and sometimes
> wrong.
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