[RndTbl] Advice on finally buying my first laptop
Alberto Abrao
alberto at abrao.net
Sat Sep 26 20:27:06 CDT 2020
I've worked in the trenches for the longest time.
Whatever you do, do not buy HP.
Dell, Lenovo, ASUS, hell, even Acer. But *never* HP.
Kind regards,
Alberto Abrao
On 2020-09-26 7:48 p.m., Adam Thompson wrote:
> Thunderbolt 3 (actually USB-C, but both, really) can die in a fire.
> Preferably a very painful one.
> Great in theory but a giant PITA in practice.
>
> I think you should pick your laptop based on the case/product series
> (e.g. do you need a titanium-reinforced unit?), then screen, then
> keyboard, then GPU (if it matters to you). CPU differences are minimal
> unless you're doing something unusual... and you're not getting a
> mobile GPU to run 4k games at 120Hz anyway.
>
> I would never buy another HP, even if it was half the price of
> everything else. Multiple negative experiences with several HP product
> lines over the last 10yrs. ASUS and Acer make better laptops than HP
> does, both physically and driver-wise.
>
> If you want a docking station for multi-monitor or PCIe or serial or
> whatever, plan your entire purchase around that.
>
> -Adam
>
> On September 26, 2020 6:25:09 p.m. CDT, "Bradford C. Vokey"
> <brad at fsi.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> I want to purchase my very first laptop in the next few days. :) I've
> purchased several for the wife and kids over the years but I've always
> stayed "desktop forever" for my daily tasks, mostly due to the
> cost/performance of desktops vs laptops.
>
> However, I am now spending so much more time outside remote connecting
> to my various desktops on mobile devices that maybe it is time to
> finally just get a decent laptop.
>
> I've always hated the small screen real estate available when using
> laptops when compared to a multi-monitor desktop that I am really drawn
> to a dual screen laptop like the ROG Zephyrus Duo
> (https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Laptops/ROG-Zephyrus-Duo-15/). However, I
> don't want to invest so much $$$ ($4K+!) into my very first laptop.
>
> So I have given in (for now) and narrowed it down to a much more
> affordable Ryzen 7 laptop from HP (I know, lots of bloatware coming my
> way from HP):
>
> https://www.costco.ca/.product.100673520.html
>
> Looks like the HP Omen 15 line has lots of future upgrade ability (at
> least for a laptop) with 2 internal NVMe M.2 connectors, and up to 64GB
> of DDR4-3200 memory max. Plus it is fairly portable vs beefier "gaming"
> laptops and I can easily get it at Costco so I will have a no hassle
> return if needed (at least for the first 90 days).
>
> Looking over reviews on the web, the Ryzen 7 "H" series seems to give
> 1.5 - 2.0 x the battery life vs a similar speed Intel i7 / i9 "H" variant.
>
> Of course I will have to give up getting Thunderbolt with any of the
> current generation Ryzen laptops and will usually be stuck with low to
> mid-end discrete graphics with the current Intel vs AMD laptop politics.
>
> For you laptop users out there, is Thunderbolt worth the Intel tax and
> the Intel battery draining premium?
>
> During the summer, I want to be able to play AAA games by the pool and
> on the docks with this laptop so at least an entry level or better
> discrete graphics card *and* a matte or > 300 nit display will be mandatory.
>
> Thoughts and comments on your favorite laptop(s) are welcome!
>
> For the MUUG Roundtable topic police: I intend to install WSL2 so :P.
>
>
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Kind regards,
Alberto Abrao
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