[RndTbl] Co-location costs
Alberto Abrao
alberto at abrao.net
Sat Feb 16 23:18:35 CST 2019
Absolutely! Just e-mail me as much information as possible. I'll talk to
my employer and will also try to reach someone at Westman by next week.
Kind regards,
Alberto Abrao
On 2019-02-16 11:14 p.m., Daulton wrote:
> Thank you very much! I would appreciate if you checked both. I can
> send my contact details and power requirements, etc. if you need?
>
> On 2/16/19 10:54 PM, Alberto Abrao wrote:
>> I have a hard time wrapping my head about not being able to service
>> my own hardware. I like to play with it from start to finish, it's
>> part of the fun! Also, the idea of relying on other people to bring
>> it back to life in case something happens drives me nuts.
>>
>> I don't know what Westman (Brandon, MB) offers for colo, if at all,
>> but I am willing to check if you're interested.
>>
>> The place I work for also host servers, but it's in Saskatchewan. I
>> can also check with them if that suits you.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Alberto Abrao
>>
>> On 2019-02-16 10:38 p.m., Gerald Brandt wrote:
>>> When I went colo, I used Joe's Datacenter in Kansas City. They were
>>> $50 USD a month for colo. I would have stayed with them, but
>>> eventually the conversion to CDN $ was just too much for me.
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2019-02-16 9:54 p.m., Daulton wrote:
>>>> I need a blend of CPU, memory, and a nice amount of disk space for
>>>> what I am up too. With vultr, digital ocean, etc, you can get
>>>> storage but it comes in at $10 per 100 gb. Bump up the memory and
>>>> amount of vcpu and plus the storage and it gets expensive fast.
>>>> Same thing applies to the dedicated servers I mention in a minute
>>>> also.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly while I am sure I can find cloud providers with clean IPs
>>>> for mail server usage there is a little problem. It seems from my
>>>> research and tests common cloud providers such as Vultr the IP you
>>>> can get is clean but there appears to be a silent increase in SCL
>>>> score for emails sent to Microsoft email (Outlook, 365, hotmail).
>>>> This is only a hypothesis so far as I have only used Vultr in my
>>>> tests, I am still looking at this so I can report on that
>>>> separately later.
>>>>
>>>> Then with dedicated servers the concern is the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Speed and quality of support.
>>>> 2) Privacy for what happens to dead drives AND after you are done
>>>> with the server, the concern being data recoverability. What then
>>>> if they do not do an actual wipe of the drives before a new
>>>> customer gets the dedicated server? If you have out of band
>>>> management of course there are ways around one of the two, but
>>>> control over the hardware resolves both.
>>>>
>>>> For what I have seen regarding dedicated servers from better
>>>> providers these concerns go away but with the pricing it appears
>>>> higher long term versus some of the colos I have been looking at
>>>> plus my own hardware. All options considered it is looking best to
>>>> have colocated servers, so that is why I am looking for a
>>>> reasonable colo.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Daulton
>>>>
>>>> On 2/15/19 3:46 PM, John Lange wrote:
>>>>> Just curious why you are looking to Colo a server vs. a vm in AWS
>>>>> or Azure? Cloud is why it is so hard to find Colo these days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or why not just put it on a decent business internet service and
>>>>> put it under your desk?
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 2:45 PM Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net
>>>>> <mailto:athompso at athompso.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Fiber Fortress is winding down and not accepting new customers,
>>>>> according to the owner.
>>>>> Quite a few ISPs are willing to let you place a small 1U rack
>>>>> server, if you already have a business relationship with them.
>>>>> (Have
>>>>> fun with physical access, though.)
>>>>> There's also Global Server Center (a division of The Exchange
>>>>> Group)
>>>>> which is Winnipeg's version of 141 Front St., and does offer 1U
>>>>> collocation.
>>>>> You may have talked to the wrong part of BellMTS, you want MTS
>>>>> Datacenters, don't have contact info right now, sorry. They have
>>>>> their own AS and domain.
>>>>> In general, though, there are a lot fewer options today than
>>>>> 10yrs
>>>>> ago. Mostly because everyone goes virtual, that being "good
>>>>> enough"
>>>>> for 99.999% of applications.
>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>
>>>>> On February 14, 2019 5:20:40 PM CST, Daulton <daulton at tetmail.ca
>>>>> <mailto:daulton at tetmail.ca>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to contribute some information, I have researched
>>>>> others for
>>>>> colocation but here are the top contenders so far. I am
>>>>> waiting for
>>>>> quotes for more, so if I find more good options I will
>>>>> send them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Notably for local companies, Fiber Fortress and Bell MTS
>>>>> did not even
>>>>> bother to respond. Manitoba Hydro Telecom appears to only
>>>>> sell 1/3
>>>>> cabinets as their lowest size available.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Company: Amanah
>>>>> Location(s): Toronto at 151 Front Street and 1 Yonge Street
>>>>>
>>>>> Single 1U 1.88″(H) x 24″(W) x 42″(D) 1 Amp 110V 100Mbps /
>>>>> 1Gbps 8 IPs
>>>>> (/29) -5Usable $99 Monthly & $99 Setup on a 12 Month term.
>>>>>
>>>>> They also have a free vlan for you as well, and have fiber
>>>>> between the
>>>>> data centers and a cross connections.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Company: Nuday
>>>>> Location(s): 231 Amber St. Markham, ON
>>>>>
>>>>> Features: 1U Space, 2AMP / 120v UPS / Generator Power,
>>>>> 1000 Mbps Up/Down
>>>>> Port, 5 Static Public IP ( /29 ), 3000 GB Data Transfer /
>>>>> Month, $59 / Month
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Company: Les Net
>>>>> Location(s): Winnipeg
>>>>>
>>>>> Costs: 1U space $30 / month, /29 IP addresses $20 / month,
>>>>> 6 power
>>>>> outlets $30 / month, 100M internet connection $175 /
>>>>> month, Power usage
>>>>> $135/KW
>>>>>
>>>>> Power usage wise it would cost $62 / month for something
>>>>> like a Dell R710.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Daulton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/6/19 6:39 PM, Daulton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any estimates they could give me for the
>>>>> prices for 1U
>>>>> or 2U colocation at any of the cities providers?
>>>>> Whether it
>>>>> be MTS,
>>>>> Les.net, Fiber Fortress, etc. I know I can contact
>>>>> them each
>>>>> for quotes
>>>>> but I am first wondering about your guys experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> To give an example of power usage it would be
>>>>> something such
>>>>> as a Dell
>>>>> R710.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Daulton
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