[RndTbl] BGP data in real time?

[Adam Thompson]

Pretty sure you won't see it there first, but...
Cloudflare and Noction and Kentik are all already monitoring it.  Don't know if they have anything more real time than blog posts, though.

The scope of the outage guarantees it's not just an eBGP failure - e911 operations should be unaffected by anything short of the complete collapse the the Telco core.

My money is on an internal naming service (not DNS, more like JNDI or the SS7 service naming service whose name I can't remember) and a botched upgrade, plus some previously-unknown circular dependencies preventing a cold restart.

-Adam
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Just trying to track the Rogers AS812 route announcements to get a sense when they may be coming back up. As of 20:00 UTC (which I think is 3pm Central) they had zero routes.

John


On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 4:02 PM Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net<mailto:athompso at athompso.net>> wrote:

Oh, another way to get – not the BGP data, but other data that can act as a proxy – is to run RIPE Atlas queries.  Among the queries you can run are “traceroute” queries, which can give some of the same resulting insights as having the raw BGP routes.

-Adam







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Generally correct.  The data is VERY resource-intensive to process and AFAIK that delay literally just reflects the processing time.

If you want real-time, you generally need your own BGP router(a) so you can suck data from it/them.

You can also pay obscene amounts of money to Oracle (who now owns a few network intelligence companies including Thousandeyes among others) to get closer to real time, depending on what data you're after.



Email Theo and/or me with more details if you don't want to share them publicly.



-Adam





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Does anyone know of a good way for monitoring BGP route data in near real-time? There are several public BGPPlay sites out there but the data seems delayed?



That being said, one challenge I'm having with the sites is the time stamps don't say which timezone they are in. I assume it is UTC but if that is the case then the data is at least a couple hours old on any of the sites I've found.



John



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