[RndTbl] BGP data in real time?

Robert Keizer robert at keizer.ca
Sat Jul 9 11:19:55 CDT 2022


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MN1ab6kgGc relates.

On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 4:31 PM Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net> wrote:

> Pretty sure you won't see it there first, but...
> Cloudflare and Noction and Kentik are all already monitoring it.  Don't
> know if they have anything more real time than blog posts, though.
>
> The scope of the outage guarantees it's not just an eBGP failure - e911
> operations should be unaffected by anything short of the complete collapse
> the the Telco core.
>
> My money is on an internal naming service (not DNS, more like JNDI or the
> SS7 service naming service whose name I can't remember) and a botched
> upgrade, plus some previously-unknown circular dependencies preventing a
> cold restart.
>
> -Adam
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> *From:* Roundtable <roundtable-bounces at muug.ca> on behalf of John Lange <
> john at johnlange.ca>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 4:15:39 PM
> *To:* Continuation of Round Table discussion <roundtable at muug.ca>
> *Subject:* Re: [RndTbl] BGP data in real time?
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> Just trying to track the Rogers AS812 route announcements to get a sense
> when they may be coming back up. As of 20:00 UTC (which I think is 3pm
> Central) they had zero routes.
>
> John
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> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 4:02 PM Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net>
> wrote:
>
> Oh, another way to get – not the BGP data, but other data that can act as
> a proxy – is to run RIPE Atlas queries.  Among the queries you can run are
> “traceroute” queries, which can give some of the same resulting insights as
> having the raw BGP routes.
>
> -Adam
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> *From:* Roundtable <roundtable-bounces at muug.ca> *On Behalf Of *Adam
> Thompson
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022 3:54 PM
> *To:* Continuation of Round Table discussion <Roundtable at muug.ca>
> *Subject:* Re: [RndTbl] BGP data in real time?
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> Generally correct.  The data is VERY resource-intensive to process and
> AFAIK that delay literally just reflects the processing time.
>
> If you want real-time, you generally need your own BGP router(a) so you
> can suck data from it/them.
>
> You can also pay obscene amounts of money to Oracle (who now owns a few
> network intelligence companies including Thousandeyes among others) to
> get closer to real time, depending on what data you're after.
>
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> Email Theo and/or me with more details if you don't want to share them
> publicly.
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> -Adam
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> *From:* Roundtable <roundtable-bounces at muug.ca> on behalf of John Lange <
> john at johnlange.ca>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 8, 2022, 15:45
> *To:* Roundtable, MUUG <Roundtable at muug.ca>
> *Subject:* [RndTbl] BGP data in real time?
>
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> Does anyone know of a good way for monitoring BGP route data in near
> real-time? There are several public BGPPlay sites out there but the data
> seems delayed?
>
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> That being said, one challenge I'm having with the sites is the time
> stamps don't say which timezone they are in. I assume it is UTC but if that
> is the case then the data is at least a couple hours old on any of the
> sites I've found.
>
>
>
> John
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