[RndTbl] win server licence

Alberto Abrao alberto at abrao.net
Mon Mar 30 16:10:12 CDT 2020

Whatever you do, don't forget that activation and licensing are 
different things. You can have a machine that's activated yet fails an 
audit, and that'll give you - or your client - a nasty headache.

It's common to find some sites selling keys that would activate the 
server and work no problem, yet if the client ever gets audited... well...

Be careful!

Alberto Abrao

On 2020-03-30 2:24 p.m., Adam Thompson wrote:
> Also, beware: it can sometimes be cheaper to buy new hardware with a 
> WS OEM license than to up-license an existing system using a retail 
> license.   Right now it looks like a retail license of WS2019 
> Essentials only costs US$500, but there's a whole bunch of gotchas 
> with the Essentials license.  I can't find a good, single, reference 
> that captures them all, sorry. Standard is where OEM pricing begins to 
> really be useful.
> Anything else requires signing an Open License agreement with an MS 
> reseller.  MS does NOT seem to want to make it easy for a medium-sized 
> business to get on board the MS train... tiny-to-small shops is easy, 
> and huge shops reasonably so, but the mid-market as always gets left 
> behind.
> -Adam
> On 2020-03-30 14:10, Dan Keizer wrote:
>> thanks Adam ... he had been told performance was better .. so - 
>> that's what i know ... i dont think the issue is multi-connections.  
>> tells me he needs to look at this better to find out the real goods.
>> will see where this ends up going :-)
>> Dan.
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:06 PM Adam Thompson <athompso at athompso.net 
>> <mailto:athompso at athompso.net>> wrote:
>>     Also, unless the PC has >32GB RAM or >4 CPU sockets (not cores),
>>     the bit about better using hardware resources is 100% B.S. and is
>>     a holdover from the XP days.  There are plenty of other reasons
>>     to use server instead of workstation licenses, though - the main
>>     one that comes to mind is licensing: it's not legal to service
>>     more than 4 (???) remote clients from a workstation-licensed
>>     system, or something like that. Also, the TCP stack tuning is set
>>     for much higher connection counts on server, a workstation OS may
>>     start refusing connections much sooner than anticipated.
>>     -Adam
>>     On 2020-03-30 14:01, Dan Keizer wrote:
>>         thanks for the info Scott - as you can tell, I'm not a
>>         windows guy, so i dont know their licencing.  good to know
>>         though.  Dan.
>>         On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:59 PM Scott Toderash
>>         <scott at 100percenthelpdesk.com
>>         <mailto:scott at 100percenthelpdesk.com>> wrote:
>>             iirc that's technically not allowed because MS does not
>>             let you transfer licenses to another machine, since
>>             sometime around XP days.
>>             (And I don't have any kicking around anyway.)
>>             Which is why, of course we all like GPL etc.
>>             There is the monthly option if you sign up for SPLA but
>>             it's likely not worth it for just 1 machine since the
>>             minimum is around $150/month. But then you could get
>>             other licenses for other things too.
>>             On 2020-03-30 1:48 p.m., Dan Keizer wrote:
>>                 well, first off this is not for me (honest!) ..
>>                 a guy I know is looking to run a windows server
>>                 licence for some specific software vertical he is
>>                 looking at ... (i asked - they dont have a linux port)
>>                 the company (no idea who it is) claims the software
>>                 works best on server licence as it utilizes
>>                 the hardware better ...
>>                 he's looking at trying to save money on the licence,
>>                 so does anyone have 2016 or 2008 server licences on
>>                 dead machines that can be repurposed?
>>                 wondering if the likes of MER may as well....
>>                 thanks.
>>                 Dan.
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